tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post552951072254195516..comments2024-02-16T18:32:38.635-05:00Comments on The Back 40K: Thinking outside of T6; Heavy SupportFarmpunkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09622091234212120598noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-55255505917297192202011-02-04T11:31:18.387-05:002011-02-04T11:31:18.387-05:00My 1500 list I tried out was
Prime with lashwhips...My 1500 list I tried out was<br /><br />Prime with lashwhips bonesword talons, toxin sacs, adrenal glands and regen<br /><br />Hive guard x2<br />Hive guard x2<br /><br />Tervigon adrenal glands, toxin sacs, catalyst<br />Termagants x10<br />Tervigon adrenal glands, toxin sacs, catalyst<br />Termagants x10<br /><br />Biovores x3<br />Tyrannofex<br />Tyrannofex<br /><br />Or I could drop all the biomorphs off of the prime and add in a 5th hive guard. Normally I attach the prime to a hive guard squad to soak up fire. This list devastates mech lists at this point value. Deamons gave me trouble and I found it didn't have enough umph to handle a dedicated assault unit ie Trygon.<br /><br />So I've been looking to versify my list. replace tyrannofex with carnifex, replace tervigon with warriors. change out prime for tryant and guard. add in zoanthropes. I'm going to try out my new list here this week.TheGraveMindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202256201375802641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-69641121930430411492011-02-03T18:52:59.456-05:002011-02-03T18:52:59.456-05:00Here's my latest list - it adds on biovores in...Here's my latest list - it adds on biovores inside the "normal" 6HG/2 tervigon/2tyrannofex build precisely for the reasons you cite above. Plus I like the idea of dropping dinner plates on Longfangs.<br /><br />Tprime1 w/bs, lw, spitter<br />Tprime2 w/bs, lw, spitter, tox (regen?)<br /><br />3 broods HGx2<br />2x Tfex w/rupture, cluster, dessicator<br />3x biovores<br /><br />2 broods Tgantx10<br />2x Tgon w/ag, tox, cat, scytals<br /><br />4x warriors w/spitter, scytals (accompanied by Prime1)<br />4x warriors w/double BS, scytals, tox (accompanied by Prime2)<br /><br />Debating consolidating the HGs into two units of 3, dropping 1-2 biovores, and adding (a) venomthrope(s). Concerned it reduces the volume of fire too much and I'd need to find a way to add in a venom cannon in warrior squad 1 to help compensate.Ghostinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14612442936351544336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-6193660343023123182011-02-03T15:21:09.288-05:002011-02-03T15:21:09.288-05:00My heavies tend to go to a Trygon and a pair of Bi...My heavies tend to go to a Trygon and a pair of Biovores.<br /><br />The Trygon is the replacement CC Fex... more wounds, better WS, higher Init, more attacks, and re-rolling all failed hits? Did I miss anything? Right, he's Fleet. And can still shoot, if you're feeling antsy.<br /><br />With as many attacks as they have, the Trygon is still a threat to AV14 (while the 'fex is a little better, it's worse against everything else) and can take on single T4 characters... the fex is better against a literal horde of multi-wound T4 things (or T5 on the charge, if you bothered to upgrade him), but those occurrences are rare enough to make me pick the overall (ie; 95% of the time) better choice.<br /><br />What lets the fex shine, IMHO, is its ability to load up with big fancy guns. That's how I always ran mine back in 4th - S8 large blast and either a pair of devourers or deathspitters (for more blast action). I'd even throw on spinebanks from time to time just to have a 3rd gun... and it was still S6, afterall.<br /><br />You can still do this, but it's clocking in at about 200 points. The upside is that you don't lose any CC potential by taking guns (unlike the previous incarnations where you'd be giving up attacks from Talons), and you still have Battering Ram (though what good that'll do you is questionable). <br /><br />But you're still paying 200 points for roughly the firepower (arguably less) of a 100-130 point Imperial tank. You can't be stunned or one-shotted (barring a few specific instances) but still... it's a little bit of a stretch. If you need the long-ranged support in your army, then I think the Fex can be a good fit. Beyond that, they need to go in extremely expensive (what, 600 points for a 2-fex/2-prime 'star'?) combo's.<br /><br />I'm glad the kit is so good at looking like a Tervigon. Food for thought - would anyone consider it overpowered if it were 30 points cheaper base?<br /><br />This would give you a Screamer Killer for 130 (150 if you took the newfangled Bio-plasma). I'd be interested in non-nid opinions, but that would make me look at it as an assault platform (or even as a gun platform) over the Trygon.<br /><br />To end the rant and keep this on track, I agree about Biovores as well. They're not gonna be shooting down any tanks, but the barrage is often overlooked and a great add-on!Anonymous Foodiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14362829012549159278noreply@blogger.com