tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post8386704902637861486..comments2024-02-16T18:32:38.635-05:00Comments on The Back 40K: Dust and Flames?!?!Farmpunkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09622091234212120598noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-70964620087005998422013-05-03T16:47:22.710-04:002013-05-03T16:47:22.710-04:00I think that miniature games, by their very nature...I think that miniature games, by their very nature, simply require more love and attention from publishers to do well. They need regional reps, ranger programs, tournament/prize support, etc.<br /><br />Battlefront has that network set up already for Flames. Adding another game to that network isn't a huge deal. Fantasy Flight, being a board game and gaming book company, would have to roll that network from scratch to properly support Dust. As it is, I've only seen their ipad-in-a-box shelf video displays. Which are cool, and good for selling board games to a casual audience. But war games require more TLC than that.SandWyrmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02265244938930651317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-4137153130680462682013-05-03T14:31:40.442-04:002013-05-03T14:31:40.442-04:00Ignore the 2 deletions above I answered my own que...Ignore the 2 deletions above I answered my own questions! Damn the Valley you live in the US, I am in the UK. I have only ever seen it here in one non-gaming shop with a few random boxes. There is no support of it. I really wish there was, I like it and have a sizeable collectionbought whenever I can find some in stock.<br /> Also this is their second change of publishers. Maybe Dust are a little difficult to work with themselves, although they more likely want more miniature support and F/F seem to have trouble keeping the product flowing.Runitsgoggalorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17051728251258984223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-70115793342236863822013-05-03T14:22:32.541-04:002013-05-03T14:22:32.541-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Runitsgoggalorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17051728251258984223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-91113593203065923792013-05-03T14:22:02.046-04:002013-05-03T14:22:02.046-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Runitsgoggalorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17051728251258984223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-6199442136029547802013-05-03T09:10:36.769-04:002013-05-03T09:10:36.769-04:00I think that non-compete issue is a real problem f...I think that non-compete issue is a real problem for FF.<br /><br />That being said, although the X-Wing Miniatures sales are BOOMING, you would be hard-pressed to find a store that supports actual play. I will have to travel 90 minutes into NYC (where their last tournament only had 2 players) or drive 2 hours in another direction. I live in Central NJ, which has 10 stores with Friday Night Magic withing an hour of me. <br /><br />I just joined the only gaming group for X-Wing in my area and we hope to host regionals next year if the game still exists.<br /><br />I guess my point here is FF isn't good at supporting in-store events. They make a token prize-pack effort, but barely any other actual attempts at penetration. <br /><br />I've never seen Dust in any store, even for sale, except for a few boxes at a store in NYC that literally stocks at least one of everything. So maybe this move is a good thing.RecklessFablehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09346790794614748338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-83400657978705171622013-05-02T23:15:09.642-04:002013-05-02T23:15:09.642-04:00It's a local issue if you're not seeing it...It's a local issue if you're not seeing it in stores. My store here stocks the entire product line, and every store in town stocks at least some of it. I have worked in a couple game stores, and from what I have experienced, most owners are just apprehensive about buying into it since it doesn't have as much of a following as 40k or other games do.Damn The Valleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10406335232440459737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-27976916456072385472013-05-02T22:10:37.592-04:002013-05-02T22:10:37.592-04:00I've seen some D:W products on shelves here in...I've seen some D:W products on shelves here in Indy. I've even bought a few.SandWyrmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02265244938930651317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-29981445131362355852013-05-02T22:09:47.583-04:002013-05-02T22:09:47.583-04:00Don't think that publishers don't have a L...Don't think that publishers don't have a LOT of say in what a studio does or doesn't do with their game. Coming from the video game industry, I can tell you that the guys with the money (publishers) call almost all of the shots. SandWyrmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02265244938930651317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-49788757146807192882013-05-02T22:06:20.368-04:002013-05-02T22:06:20.368-04:00By all accounts, Fantasy Flight was making money o...By all accounts, Fantasy Flight was making money on Dust:Tactics, but not Dust:Warfare. When it comes down to it, FF is a board game company, not a miniatures company. So I'm betting that FF wanted to drop D:W, but Dust Studios didn't want the games (for very good reasons) to be split between two different publishers. So they shopped around and found Battlefront.<br /><br />I'd also bet that GW wasn't real happy about FF distributing a competing sci-fi(ish) wargame. So there may well have been some pressure from GW to drop D:W, or lose some GW licenses. Which, if the game wasn't performing for FF, would be a no-brainer.SandWyrmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02265244938930651317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-45778896517274726762013-05-02T19:19:52.162-04:002013-05-02T19:19:52.162-04:00I should say online retailers have woeful stock le...I should say online retailers have woeful stock levels as I have yet to see it in a bricks and mortar shop.Runitsgoggalorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17051728251258984223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-53607371737662792282013-05-02T19:13:30.616-04:002013-05-02T19:13:30.616-04:00They need to do a better job than F/F. Dust has no...They need to do a better job than F/F. Dust has no market penetration in the UK. It is in no shops, gets no coverage and the stock levels in the retailers is woeful. <br /> And remember they are distributors and have no say in the game at all, so the direction the game will go in is exactly the same. <br /> The game itself is good they just need to let people know about it, get it into the game stores and run some games. There is only so long I can try to badger people into playing it before I give up on it too.Runitsgoggalorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17051728251258984223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-29641124168587106552013-05-02T18:02:02.889-04:002013-05-02T18:02:02.889-04:00Well, this is certainly a more interesting develop...Well, this is certainly a more interesting development for our community than 'GW and Google conspire to shut down a few blogs.'<br /><br />Can BF promote Dust better? Is that the reason behind the move? Seems likely.<br />Well, let's see what BF can do with 'weird WWII.'SinSynnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12352693991857976930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-45643975668484361412013-05-02T15:39:37.946-04:002013-05-02T15:39:37.946-04:00Wow. Caught me off guard with that one!
Be intere...Wow. Caught me off guard with that one!<br /><br />Be interesting to see how the product develops now.SandWyrmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02265244938930651317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-63784158678798873152013-05-02T14:30:03.293-04:002013-05-02T14:30:03.293-04:00hey. I actually had something nice/interesting to ...hey. I actually had something nice/interesting to say.Farmpunkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09622091234212120598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-69290770319762048822013-05-02T14:28:42.540-04:002013-05-02T14:28:42.540-04:00I'm floored. This is so exciting. Farmpunk m...I'm floored. This is so exciting. Farmpunk made a post! Oh yeah, and the Dust thing.CaulynDarrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556761303500891267noreply@blogger.com