tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post8959698901986058231..comments2024-02-16T18:32:38.635-05:00Comments on The Back 40K: Guest Post: The Art Of Big Scary DistractionsFarmpunkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09622091234212120598noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-46659441729852722452011-05-19T04:26:39.347-04:002011-05-19T04:26:39.347-04:00Lol Sandy, if I had a dollar for every time a razo...Lol Sandy, if I had a dollar for every time a razorback or heavy weapons team has penetrated my battlewagon front 14 armor on ROUND ONE, I could afford a new GW miniature....40K + T&Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09058918571922538449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-15915662653331564612011-05-17T12:52:29.405-04:002011-05-17T12:52:29.405-04:00A Vendetta has about a 12% chance to kill a Russ o...A Vendetta has about a 12% chance to kill a Russ on the front armor. On the side it goes up to roughly 24%. Still not great. Shoot away. :)<br /><br />Even experienced players have trouble ignoring something big and scary and focusing on the targets that really matter.<br /><br />For disciplined players, there are other distractions, like a Hellhound or a Demolisher, that they know are a distraction, but are too dangerous not to shoot at anyhow. <br /><br />In my game with Rionnay last night, he KNEW that I was distracting him with my Hellhound from firing at my Chimeras. But if he didn't take it out I was going to put the big bad touch on his scoring troops. <br /><br />Hollow threats are nice, but honest threats are even better. :)SandWyrmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02265244938930651317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-33771746567322344532011-05-16T23:40:17.684-04:002011-05-16T23:40:17.684-04:00What you're really saying is the leman is a di...What you're really saying is the leman is a distraction to new players who don't understand math-hammer. I'd STILL kill the Leman as a priority. It's not particularly hard to las them on side armor, either.40K + T&Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09058918571922538449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-67480048072353629662011-05-16T16:43:19.141-04:002011-05-16T16:43:19.141-04:00@COTBT
Hellhounds and Chimeras in front. Demolish...@COTBT<br /><br />Hellhounds and Chimeras in front. Demolishers and command Chimeras in the middle. Vanilla Russes in the rear lending support fire.SandWyrmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02265244938930651317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-16011200044150742972011-05-16T15:24:03.848-04:002011-05-16T15:24:03.848-04:00If a gunline player pours 85% of his anti-tank sho...If a gunline player pours 85% of his anti-tank shots into my Russes, to little or no effect, while sparing my Chimeras... that's a distraction.<br /><br />If a Guard or Ork player gets so obsessed with killing my Hellhound that he doesn't try and kill the units that really matter... that's a distraction too.<br /><br />A distraction unit may be capable of real mayhem, but that doesn't mean that attempting to take it out is a good idea. It may take more resources for a particular enemy to kill than the kill is worth.SandWyrmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02265244938930651317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-87790487741269292902011-05-16T14:43:43.790-04:002011-05-16T14:43:43.790-04:00Yes, but Warboss and I agree on something. A russ...Yes, but Warboss and I agree on something. A russ isn't a distraction in the sense just like my 5 Thunderwolf Calvary models aren't a distraction. If you don't kill them, they will kill you. A distraction is something that makes you do what you aren't supposed to in my opinion. That outflanking sentinel is a distraction. That Vendetta is a distraction. Just my thoughts tho.Spaguatyrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09459803772469387289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-79249420879238425542011-05-16T09:01:37.168-04:002011-05-16T09:01:37.168-04:00@Warboss
Yes, but if you have a long range anti-t...@Warboss<br /><br />Yes, but if you have a long range anti-tank gun what is your best target? <br /><br />It's not the Russ, which you're unlikely to do more than scratch the paint on. Lascannons have about a 3% chance of killing it in a front shot. Meltas and Klaws do much better. <br /><br />But if I can get you to send your Klaws/Fists after the Chimeras, and your Lascannons/Missiles after the Russes, then I'm going to have a very good time of it. :)SandWyrmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02265244938930651317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-2697916137892941922011-05-16T04:23:18.439-04:002011-05-16T04:23:18.439-04:00I also disagree that Lemans are a great unit for d...I also disagree that Lemans are a great unit for distraction. People shoot them because they can hurt any unit in the game, period, usually with a big pie plate. That's not really a distraction, as much as it is common sense. You want something left to deal with those chimeras or troops of your own left alive to take objectives. Leman Russ tend to stop both of those if theya re left to fire at you unmolseted.40K + T&Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09058918571922538449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-73254958774184090142011-05-15T11:51:44.008-04:002011-05-15T11:51:44.008-04:00Great post! I always find it interesting when peop...Great post! I always find it interesting when people over look tactics with a army type. =) I think its easy to get caught in the back up and shoot mindset as a IG player and just go through the motions.Drkmoralshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09962297452363508577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-35429351603927734582011-05-15T11:43:49.161-04:002011-05-15T11:43:49.161-04:00Vendettas/Valks do not turbo-boost. I think you me...Vendettas/Valks do not turbo-boost. I think you mean flat-out. Only bikes get to turbo-boost!<br /><br />Also, a 2+ save against assault? I'd like to know how that's achieved, as cover saves don't work in assaults and I'm assuming you mean the 6+ to hit, being an equivalent of a 2+ save?<br /><br />Other than that, great post! :)Menzies Tankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16442136130180768750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-18412979835093254722011-05-15T04:22:44.053-04:002011-05-15T04:22:44.053-04:00I said in the other comment thread - fantastic art...I said in the other comment thread - fantastic article, and something I will definitely be making more of a point of doing in future games with my Guard. Thanks.Wolfyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06125763753024484679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-71202292514568649932011-05-15T03:53:50.821-04:002011-05-15T03:53:50.821-04:00I played a game the other day, vs necron and SM al...I played a game the other day, vs necron and SM allied army. My IG army had a regular squad with an autocannon. they were treating it like a heavy 2 twin linked lascannon. It absorbed shooting all game.<br /><br />One question for the mech tactics: is it best to send battle tanks first, then chimeras just behind them, all moving 6", and just slowly advance shooting and then capture objectives?revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17826237082533895833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-89918378190136302572011-05-14T23:42:23.466-04:002011-05-14T23:42:23.466-04:00There is no one way to accomplish a distraction.
...There is no one way to accomplish a distraction.<br /><br />The basic essence of a distraction is that it distracts. It diverts your opponent's attention from what he should be dealing with to something else that looks more important. <br /><br />At one time or another, I've successfully distracted opponents with Marbo, Russes, Vendettas, Sentinels, Rough Riders, Ratlings, and even Ogyrns. Sometimes, as in the case of Sentinels, something can distract because it looks easier to kill than the wall of armor to either side.SandWyrmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02265244938930651317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-6973202314268303922011-05-14T22:59:59.540-04:002011-05-14T22:59:59.540-04:00I like the post, but disagree with your idea of a ...I like the post, but disagree with your idea of a distraction from my point of view. A distraction is like a fly bussing near your ear of mouth or nose. You swat at it, but don't always kill it. A good distraction is a small point unit that causes the same effect. Something doesn't have to be big or super powerful to be a distraction. A fire magnet is different than a distraction. Other than that, great article.Spaguatyrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09459803772469387289noreply@blogger.com