tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post2297962339549391670..comments2024-02-16T18:32:38.635-05:00Comments on The Back 40K: NOVA: Sandwyrm's Games Part IFarmpunkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09622091234212120598noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-85497125100823120262011-09-01T23:09:17.794-04:002011-09-01T23:09:17.794-04:00Heyo - thanks for the kind words. I have to say I...Heyo - thanks for the kind words. I have to say I was absolutely mortified to be facing you as my opening game in my first GT. Talk about intimidation - an author of one of the blogs I read frequently to learn how to play better? We had a good time joking around, but I was a slow player in *every* game - I'll get better, I promise. Still surprised your vet squad hoofed it even after the reroll when they locked with my stealers. Looking forward to the next matchup!Ghostinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14612442936351544336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-79620492547291614172011-09-01T18:30:29.886-04:002011-09-01T18:30:29.886-04:00This is Vinny
Thanks for the game SandWyrm. Was ...This is Vinny<br /><br />Thanks for the game SandWyrm. Was a fun warm up. I really like your Guard army as well. Really nicely painted. You also take some interesting things like the Primaris Psyker.<br /><br />Looking back at Nova if I continue playing Guard I was thinking to add Dozer blades as I had a lot of issues with immobilizing my tanks on terrain since there was so much terrain in Nova and most of the objectives where in terrain. Allied Witch Hunter Inquisitor for the hood is no longer legal so will have to replace it with something. Maybe the 2nd Hydra, Officer of the Fleet and some Dozer blades. More likely I'll be retiring Guard soon in favor of the Space Wolves I been working on its so cumbersome to travel with and carry from table to table.<br /><br />This was my 2000 pt list for reference<br />Asgard 501st 2000pts<br />HQ<br />Company Command Squad with 3 Melta guns + Astropath in Chimera "Odin" with Multi Laser and Hull Heavy Flamer<br />Allied WH Inquisitor Lord with Psychic hood, targeter, and 3 warriors with plasma guns.<br />Troops<br />Veteran Squad with 2 Melta Guns 1 Flamer, Demolitions + 6 Shotguns in Chimera "Tyr" with Multi Laser and Hull Heavy Flamer<br />Veteran Squad with 3 Melta Guns + Auto Cannon in Chimera "Hodur" with Multi Laser and Hull Heavy Flamer<br />Veteran Squad with 3 Melta Guns + Auto Cannon in Chimera "Eir" with Multi Laser and Hull Heavy Flamer<br />Infantry Platoon<br />Platoon Command Squad w Alrahem + 3 Melta Guns in Chimera "Sif" with Multi Laser and Hull Heavy Flamer<br />Infantry Squad with Melta gun in Chimera "Hermodr" with Multi Laser and Hull Heavy Flamer<br />Infantry Squad with Melta gun in Chimera "Loki" with Multi Laser and Hull Heavy Flamer<br />Fast Attack<br />Vendetta Gunship "Hirst"<br />Vendetta Gunship "Lenneth"<br />Vendetta Gunship "Silmeria"<br />Heavy Support<br />Hydra Flak Tank "Ullur" with Hull Heavy Bolter<br />Manticore "Freya" with Hull Heavy Flamer<br />Manticore "Frei" with Hull Heavy Flamer <br /><br /><br />I'm into World of Tanks also. My WOT Name is DarthKirika. Will add you all to my friends list. Currently working on IS3-IS4, King Tiger-> E75 and T1 heavy to T29 and hopefully T34 before it goes premium.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-17045636798749321452011-09-01T11:40:37.785-04:002011-09-01T11:40:37.785-04:00I will say I am not normally a huge fan of dozer b...I will say I am not normally a huge fan of dozer blades on guard tanks well chimeras anyway. Most of the guard players I know and I know a few don't have trouble with terrain even Sandwyrm in all the games we’ve played. I will also say that we play on pretty terrain heavy tables most of the time so it’s not due to lack of terrain. I just feel there could be better use of points most of the time. With that said I would like to chalk up what happened to Sandwyrm as bad timing and that he doesn't need dozer blades. However Sandwyrm either needs to send his guys back to tanker school for driving lessons before going to a tournament or get dozer blades. :) This isn't the first time at a tournament where terrain has gotten the best of his army.<br />I do though run rams and rollas on my ork transport vehicles. So I understand their importance. It’s all about purpose and the consequences of those random failures that might happen as to take blades or not. With my list losing a truck is a big loss as most of them will be blown up by the enemy anyway so I don't need to fight the terrain as well. They don't really pull of movement tactics or try to get in position like guard tanks do they just kind of take the shortest route to the fight through whatever is in the way so testing is a constant task and it’s essential for my army to pass.<br /><br />On a side note one vehicle I wish had a dozer blade or dozer blade like rule is the LR. That tank above all else kills me when it gets hung up on that little pile of sand bags or well terrain in general that shouldn't even phase it. It’s not very fitting for the name and or its fluff at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-4574538532497037892011-09-01T10:39:02.814-04:002011-09-01T10:39:02.814-04:00@Beer
That was a fun game, what with us both vent...@Beer<br /><br />That was a fun game, what with us both venting our bad attitudes as jokes on each other. :)<br /><br />I had a nice long conversation with John (the head judge) at 4:30 am on Saturday morning about my terrain gripes. Where he apologized and said that table (we looked at it and it was the same as when I played Alex's Tau) obviously wasn't right.<br /><br />He promised to discuss it with the judges and obviously he did. :)SandWyrmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02265244938930651317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-43898245481196161262011-09-01T10:34:28.425-04:002011-09-01T10:34:28.425-04:00@Alex
Our usernames on WOT are SandWyrm, Farmpunk...@Alex<br /><br />Our usernames on WOT are SandWyrm, Farmpunk, and Spags. I think the case on the letters matters when you search. I also haven't played WOT in over a week, what with a certain large tourney going on. :)<br /><br />I'll add you to my friends list.SandWyrmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02265244938930651317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-743778207413613512011-09-01T10:16:52.186-04:002011-09-01T10:16:52.186-04:00Looking forward to your report on Game 3 against m...Looking forward to your report on Game 3 against my Fabulous Fail list. I had a ton of fun playing you, and your army is incredibly well painted. It was a pretty close race between you and Gabe Dobkin's Cobra IG. <br /><br />Incidentally I think I might have been the judge you asked about the terrain. In terms of terrain setup the judges had a conversation about terrain deployment on the second day. We were told that you should be able to fit a rhino in between the various pieces of terrain. After checking everything there were a few tables that seemed pretty tight, but for the most part everything looked okay.<br /><br />Terrain is something we'll keep on working at. Every year we'll be able to build more and more.Beer4TheBeerGodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07561608870456194564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-28900292452973597422011-09-01T09:18:40.013-04:002011-09-01T09:18:40.013-04:00Nice looking Tau army you have there.
I've nev...Nice looking Tau army you have there.<br />I've never played with Piranhas, but the rest is quite similar to what I usually play.<br />missile+plas<br />ethereal<br />3 twin missile+drones<br />3 plasma+missile+drones<br />6+9+9 FW<br />10 Kroot<br />5+5 Pathfinders<br />3+3+2 Broadsides<br />1750speedfreekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03542519587587013303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-4013118237317793852011-09-01T00:22:27.756-04:002011-09-01T00:22:27.756-04:00Understood. I guess that my local experience has l...Understood. I guess that my local experience has lead me to value the dozer highly. I think it is a list build choice that I make to "counteract the unknown" as you mentioned. <br /><br />I'm a relatively inexperienced tourney player, but I felt that terrain can have such an effect on the game that the points spent to fight it are worth as much as the weapons I'm giving my Vets.<br /><br />I can see where the shift in terrain density/type can make a list seem unsuited to the tourney.WineSharkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16212299461727539955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-19534522492064678692011-09-01T00:00:50.953-04:002011-09-01T00:00:50.953-04:00Also I'm big on WOT, I can't find your pos...Also I'm big on WOT, I can't find your post with your user name, Sandwyrm. Or is it hidden to prevent the mass TKing that would surely come about?<br /><br />I go by Wargamer08.Alex Simpsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14801039662222002480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-45236891390863425082011-08-31T23:54:33.681-04:002011-08-31T23:54:33.681-04:00No I don't have a blog, I don't think I...No I don't have a blog, I don't think I'm interesting enough to have people read what I right.<br /><br />As for the game, it was the closest game I had all three days I played. I think if SandWyrm had not crashed on turn 4 it would have been very close.<br /><br />SandWyrn also understated the level of Fail that was my Crisis Team running away, that team also had my Commander in it. He also does not mention me being an idiot and suiciding 6 kroot into his sentinels because I forgot that they where walkers...<br /><br />I had trouble with the giant hill in the center all tournament. I really craved some kind of durable assault unit to put in the center, sadly Tau don't have those.<br /><br />For anyone curious my list was:<br />HQ (1)<br />1 Shas’El; Plasma Rifle, Missile Pod, Multi tracker, Hard-Wired Target Lock (92)<br />Elites (3)<br />3 Crisis Battlesuits; 2 with Crisis Battlesuits Plasma Rifle, Missile Pod, Multi tracker; 1 With Twin-linked Missile Pods, Drone Controller, 2 Gun Drone (187)<br />3 Crisis Battlesuits; 2 with Crisis Battlesuits Plasma Rifle, Missile Pod, Multi tracker; 1 With Twin-linked Missile Pods, Drone Controller, 2 Gun Drone (187)<br />3 Crisis Battlesuits; 2 with Crisis Battlesuits Plasma Rifle, Missile Pod, Multi tracker; 1 With Twin-linked Missile Pods, Drone Controller, 2 Gun Drone (187)<br /><br />Troops (4)<br />6 Fire Warriors (60) <br />Devilfish; Disruption Pod, Decoy Launchers (90)<br />6 Fire Warriors (60) <br />Devilfish; Disruption Pod, Decoy Launchers (90)<br />10 Kroot (70)<br />10 Kroot (70)<br /><br />Fast Attack (3)<br />2 Piranha; 2 Fusion Blasters, Disruption Pods, 2 Targeting Arrays, 1 Target Lock (155)<br />1 Piranha; 1 Fusion Blaster, Disruption Pod, 1 Targeting Array (75)<br />1 Piranha; 1 Fusion Blaster, Disruption Pod, 1 Targeting Array (75) <br /><br />Heavy (3)<br />3 Broadside Battlesuits; 1 with Twin Linked Railgun, Smart Missile System, Drone Controller, 2 Shield Drones; 2 with Twin Linked Railgun, Smart Missile System, Target Lock (250)<br />2 Broadside Battlesuits; 1 with Twin Linked Railgun, Smart Missile System, Drone Controller, 2 Shield Drones; 1 with Twin Linked Railgun, Smart Missile System, Target Lock (175)<br />2 Broadside Battlesuits;1 with Twin Linked Railgun, Smart Missile System, Drone Controller, 2 Shield Drones; 1 with Twin Linked Railgun, Smart Missile System, Target Lock (175)Alex Simpsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14801039662222002480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-86066701201123800012011-08-31T22:58:11.548-04:002011-08-31T22:58:11.548-04:00@Wineshark
Understand that those 2 tests I failed...@Wineshark<br /><br />Understand that those 2 tests I failed were not the first two that I took in that game. Those 2 Chimeras had already taken 3 tests between them just to get to a position where they could try and climb that hill. I made 2-3 more on other vehicles (and failing a few) for an army that might normally take 1-2 tests total at other events. While certain units (Hellhounds and Command Squads) have been prone to being immobilized, it rarely mattered to my scoring units.<br /><br />Can that risk be mitigated with Dozer Blades? Absolutely. But my point is that I never HAD to take Dozer Blades before. Because the risks of immobilizing a key unit were never that great. I honestly can't remember the last time I lost a game because of an immobilization pre-NOVA. Had I expected a problem, I would have taken the obvious solution.SandWyrmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02265244938930651317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-13743664859894155472011-08-31T19:12:00.262-04:002011-08-31T19:12:00.262-04:00Saying "I failed those 2 tests due to the bad...Saying "I failed those 2 tests due to the badly spaced terrain" is like saying "I lost the game to 2 bad die rolls." Yet these rolls in particular, you have a choice to overcome. <br /><br />At 10 points per dozer blade, I've found they are worth their cost many times over. Terrain is a fact of the board, and a 1-in-6 can be a high chance of failure. (Ask Termie squads.)<br /><br />Just like other game factors, you can mitigate this risk with wargear in many armies. Those that choose not to purchase that wargear must assume risk when facing that particular tactical situaion. Same could be said for carpace armor, power fists or melta bombs.<br /><br />Knowing how often terrain can and will affect the game, the cost for blades seems clear for every unit I plan on moving across the board. (As an IG player, that is.) Is 30-40 points in a 1500-2000 list going to break my balance? I don't feel so. Those upgrades to my Chimeras and Hellhounds pay for themseves time and time again in (anecdotally) 80+% of my games. They allow me to effectively ignore terrain, while my opponents must look at every hill, wall and shrub like a minefield.<br /><br />And let's admit it: when you high-center the damn track on a wall or a rock, it ALWAYS changes the game dynamic. It spins a whole new series of choices.<br /><br />While I agree that the terrain pics posted had some issues, and I even think that a 1-in-6 permanent immobilization is a WAY overpowered penalty, I think that the option to avoid the problem is well worth the points for the privelege.WineSharkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16212299461727539955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-2453848275060249742011-08-31T18:15:03.826-04:002011-08-31T18:15:03.826-04:00After your earlier post commenting on the terrain,...After your earlier post commenting on the terrain, I'm going to say one thing that stands out... All of your games look like they have been fought on what is "essentially" the exact same board... I figured that the little diagram you posted up was an example of just one board, but its shocking to see that it is the EXACT formula for ALL boards!<br /><br />These carbon copy boards don't lend themselves to varied tactics... people will end up with a "rinse and repeat" approach from one game to the next.Luis Nieveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16104268520391688183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-78022097239118898442011-08-31T17:33:23.159-04:002011-08-31T17:33:23.159-04:00@M3M
Not off the top of my head. Sorry.@M3M<br /><br />Not off the top of my head. Sorry.SandWyrmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02265244938930651317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-21483562057210717682011-08-31T17:22:07.978-04:002011-08-31T17:22:07.978-04:00thanks for the write up, I love your army, you'...thanks for the write up, I love your army, you've inspired me to redo mine.<br /><br />Do you know if Alex Simpson has a blog?J.R. Vosovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05646555915451735624noreply@blogger.com