tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post6441121856655474865..comments2024-02-16T18:32:38.635-05:00Comments on The Back 40K: Kings Of War: Dwarves Vs. UndeadFarmpunkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09622091234212120598noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-65707972887912135882011-06-16T02:37:58.980-04:002011-06-16T02:37:58.980-04:00Really good to see a battle report of KoW. I'...Really good to see a battle report of KoW. I'll haver to give this a go at some stage.Sean Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17507844179534966762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-23953142722944442512011-06-14T15:18:27.369-04:002011-06-14T15:18:27.369-04:00@Korona; you can use movement trays with Mantic fi...@Korona; you can use movement trays with Mantic figures. At the Mantic open day all the armies were on GW Movement trays! You can even glue all the figures together so it is easier to set up.<br /><br />@The Inner Geek; I have the Mantic Undead and find there is a reasonable selection of posses. Not quite as many as GW but enough. You can see my Zombies here - http://lyracian.blogspot.com/2010/10/undead-project-raising-dead.html<br /><br />@Brother Loring; I love my Nids but I would not recommend someone to buy the army new. Just wait for your Templers.Lyracianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13021663969271276571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-58209008716890457282011-06-14T12:50:47.814-04:002011-06-14T12:50:47.814-04:00It's no contest... but those tyranids are so b...It's no contest... but those tyranids are so beautiful and with most of the guys around here, 2nd tier would make things more of a competition to be honest. (Note:I'm not saying I'm 'l33t' but, 14 blood claws in an LRC is not 'optimised'... and yes, I've tried to help)<br /><br />I do however really like the idea of KoW and it may be enough to keep my mind off of nids before the new BT codex comes out. *waits*Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-63059765937570683012011-06-14T11:10:22.415-04:002011-06-14T11:10:22.415-04:00@Inner Geek
I personally prefer my Dwarf units wh...@Inner Geek<br /><br />I personally prefer my Dwarf units where the pose is identical. The slayers look great, but it's a real pain to set them up because there's only one puzzle-like order than they can go in and still fit together in a block.<br /><br />I'm thinking of magnetizing my Fantasy models to their bases to save time in setting them up.SandWyrmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02265244938930651317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-62649902850173437302011-06-14T10:44:00.556-04:002011-06-14T10:44:00.556-04:00@Korona
Send me an email.@Korona<br /><br />Send me an email.SandWyrmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02265244938930651317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-39529951365334398562011-06-14T10:41:48.880-04:002011-06-14T10:41:48.880-04:00@BroLo
I've wanted to start Nids too, but I j...@BroLo<br /><br />I've wanted to start Nids too, but I just can't justify it cost-wise.<br /><br />Look at it this way: You can spend $600-$700 (or more) on a Tyrannid army that's currently considered 2nd tier and at the mercy of the GW FAQ gods. Not to mention that it will have to be re-built sometime in the next 1-2 years when 6th comes out.<br /><br />Or, you can spend less than half of that on a Mantic KoW army that can also be played (with $100-200 of rule books/yr) in Warhammer Fantasy Battle.<br /><br />No contest. This should be a game, not a lifestyle.<br /><br />@Inner Geek<br /><br />I haven't bought any of Mantic's minis yet. So I don't know what they come with. Maybe someone else can comment on that.SandWyrmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02265244938930651317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-72225014083980856932011-06-14T10:07:30.362-04:002011-06-14T10:07:30.362-04:00Thanks for this write up. I picked up Dwarf King&#...Thanks for this write up. I picked up Dwarf King's Hold as an excuse to see some of their minis first hand, and have a game to play with the kids.<br /><br />I would like to toss a question out.<br /><br />There are a lot of knick-knacks and do-dads on the sprues. But it still feels like less actual building options, or poses than I'm used to. Like a lot of your army will be the same. Have you found this to be true? On the flip side, they will likely rank up better... I have a largish Empire army still in boxes because it's such a pain to get the minis to rank up!The Inner Geekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12794001001232191042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-58282188227072350372011-06-14T08:33:14.094-04:002011-06-14T08:33:14.094-04:00Those games sounded great - I hope they're the...Those games sounded great - I hope they're the first of many!<br /><br />I think the idea of having a mix of unit sizes is sound. Combined arms defiantly served the Dwarves well. Really though I'm just really happy to see a rules system where all the armies are pretty well balanced.<br /><br />Out of interest, I found a lot of details about Warpath this thread:<br />http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=306738<br /><br />It seems like they're applying a similar formula to their sci-fi game system. You can work out most of the details from the loose talk from the testers.<br /><br />The only misgiving I have is unit sizes. I think moving large forces about will be tough when there's no movement trays.Koronahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08250234754318025124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-72716796608683812712011-06-14T08:17:30.762-04:002011-06-14T08:17:30.762-04:00@ Bro Lo
We're urging you to spend LESS monie...@ Bro Lo<br /><br />We're urging you to spend LESS monies on a game. You can have TWO KoW armies for the price of those 'nids. *evil*<br /><br />heck, I'm liking the idea of having a fantasy army if we can play KoW once a month.Farmpunkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09622091234212120598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-55690410534349187582011-06-14T07:58:10.347-04:002011-06-14T07:58:10.347-04:00Purgy is tearing at my soul to buy Tyranids. You&#...Purgy is tearing at my soul to buy Tyranids. You're trying to get me to spend my hard earned cash on KoW. I hate you all!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-38155745592300119922011-06-14T06:10:23.348-04:002011-06-14T06:10:23.348-04:00You tally up wounds caused to u it's with toke...You tally up wounds caused to u it's with tokens or such. It affects their nerve tests over the course of the game so the more wounds on a unit the more likely they will falter.<br /><br />When a unit finally routes they are removed from play. Very large units like my blocks of skeletons and zombies have a fairly high nerve so it requires a lot of wounds to make them break.<br /><br />A note Sandwyrm, I was only adding in 5 attacks for spears not 10. Apparently a horde with phalanx gets 10 instead of 5 attacks so army builder was right.Archfiend of Dezdemonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01570996254347477584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-35913545074068879142011-06-14T04:40:37.025-04:002011-06-14T04:40:37.025-04:00Two questions:
- how are wounds counted in those ...Two questions:<br /><br />- how are wounds counted in those big combats if you're not removing models to represent them?<br />- are you removing whole units of sixty dudes in one go?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-75042075476952228682011-06-14T02:47:56.330-04:002011-06-14T02:47:56.330-04:00Great read. Glad to see some KoW stuff out there....Great read. Glad to see some KoW stuff out there. I think it is much better than 8th Ed Fantasy; Now if I can just get a few others to give it a try...<br /><br />I love the Mantic models so there is no way I will be buying any more GW Warhmmaer stuff other than rule books. I have enough 40k that I do not need to buy any more; I am sure I will though if they ever release a good Tervigon model...Lyracianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13021663969271276571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-64903218777143245552011-06-13T23:33:47.986-04:002011-06-13T23:33:47.986-04:00That's fine Strung, but I gravitate to the pai...That's fine Strung, but I gravitate to the painting, competition, and the social aspect more than the tell-a-story possibilities. That's probably why I've never played more than a dozen games of D&D. I just never got into the whole group narrative thing. I think too differently from most folks to mesh in nicely.<br /><br />I like being able to walk into any store in Indy (or elsewhere) and get a game in with a standard set of rules to follow. Try my best, and talk/laugh about it afterwards. House rules would just keep me confined to one store or basement. No good.<br /><br />So honestly, if I find a fun, free rule set that lets me keep playing games with my current friends and a large portion of my current mini collection, then I will drop GW like a fat, diseased whore and help build up that community instead.<br /><br />Because frankly, I can't afford GW's crack anymore. My household earns six figures and I can't afford this (my only) hobby. What's that say? Who is GW's target market if I can't afford to keep buying their little plastic men?SandWyrmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02265244938930651317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-20110487126974524332011-06-13T23:01:26.003-04:002011-06-13T23:01:26.003-04:00Games are Games. Mini's, Roleplaying and Boar...Games are Games. Mini's, Roleplaying and Board. They are all usually pretty good straight from the publisher but its all about house rules and applying a little imagination that make the games classics. To me its like guys who roleplay that can only use stuff if its in a book or supplement. The books should give you a rough idea for you to create your own adventures. So why not do the same with minis. 40k is a hobby with a ton of different levels to appreciate. While some guys like painting and modeling, I am one of those who loves a good story and an epic battle. The 40k has such a rich storyline to draw from and endless ideas for units and armies. Why limit yourself to just what is published by GW. Why not take the time to create your own rules like guard having assault rokkits with the guys you like playing with and just have a good time. Now obviously if your playing in organized events you need a uniform set of rules but then again GW doesn't do much in the way of rules to support organized play anyway. Its a game and is as enjoyable as you want it to be. If you think its lame make it better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-24647796361425930802011-06-13T21:35:15.956-04:002011-06-13T21:35:15.956-04:00@eriochrome
I'd love to get that on tape! No ...@eriochrome<br /><br />I'd love to get that on tape! No GW store around here though.SandWyrmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02265244938930651317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-51005661872793968132011-06-13T21:33:29.732-04:002011-06-13T21:33:29.732-04:00Just because you've quit buying doesn't me...Just because you've quit buying doesn't mean you have to quit playing (yet). You may need those minis for something else.SandWyrmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02265244938930651317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-63573620576851746892011-06-13T21:16:27.510-04:002011-06-13T21:16:27.510-04:00I think it would be funny to take all GW models in...I think it would be funny to take all GW models into a GW store and then play a game of KoW there to see if the employees noticed.eriochromehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10377904099582258296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4519319818452068646.post-23121607438290697722011-06-13T20:52:50.711-04:002011-06-13T20:52:50.711-04:00"It just burns me to think of what I've s..."It just burns me to think of what I've spent on 40K in comparison."<br /><br />thus one of the many reasons im done with 40k. lol. at least the orks got a good home.uberdarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13352343779774789871noreply@blogger.com