Friday, June 24, 2011

Yes, There's MORE...

by SandWyrm

More 6th Edition rumors from Blood of Kittens (3rd Wave). The volume of these is simply staggering.
"my source stubbornly refuses to give me all interim codex erratas he was given. he fears that this can be used to trace him. But I convinced him that probably everyone involved has at least the space marine errata.

Here we go: Codex Space Marines

And they Shall know Fear: Sworn Brothers, pass rally morale check automatically, if caught in sweeping advance, fights on and gets No Retreat hits

Chapter Banner: counts as as banner for assuming leadership, units in 12” re-roll morale checks for heavy casualties, lost close combat, tank shock and pinning , rest unchanged

Nartheticum: Feel no Pain (1)
Company Banner: counts as as banner for assuming leadership, units in 12” re-roll morale checks for heavy casualties, lost close combat, tank shock and pinning , rest unchanged

p. 56
Librarians have power level 1, Epistolaries 2

p. 57
Smite: shooting power
The Avengers: shooting power
Quickening: modifying power, must target himself, used in preparation phase
Null Zone: shock wave
Might of Titans: modifying power, used at start of assault phase
Gate of infinity: modifying power, used in movement phase
Vortex of Doom: Rift power

Honour of the Chapter: Fearless (2) and Stubborn

p. 62
Heroic Intervention: can surge on turn of arrival, but not shoot

p. 65
Move Through Cover: Move Through Cover (2)

p. 66
Move Through Cover: Move Through Cover (1)
Sniper Rifle: Sniper (1)

p. 69
Drop Pod Assault: Remaining drop pods are divided between rear guard, flank guard, cannot harry. Disembarking unit cannot assault even if unit has fleet.

p. 73
Thunderfire Gun: 1 crew marker, make additional S8, power weapon attack at I 1
Tremor: unit already in cover cannot force a surge

p. 75:
Cerberus Launcher: additionally units disembarking from moving vehicle have Fleet

p. 81
Power of the machine spirit: can fire one more weapon, advanced rules: can still cause directed wounds if diverting fire
Assault vehicle: units disembarking from moving vehicle have Fleet

p. 84
God of War: Fearless (2) for every unit with combat tactics

p. 85
Surprise Attack: no effect without advanced rules in play
Rites of Battle: re-roll any failed morale check for pinning, heavy casualties, tank shock or lost close combat
Talassarian Tempest Blade: Instant Death (1)
Mantle of Suzerain: Fell no Pain (1)

p. 86
Hood of Hellfire: power level 3

p. 87
Feel no Pain: Feel no Pain (1)

p. 88
Eye of Vengeance: controlling player can choose, to which armour group Telion’s wounds go
Stalker Pattern Boltgun: Rending (1)

p. 92
Chapter Tactics: Fleet (1), when disembarked from moving vehicle unit can advance, but not charge (except from Land raider and Land Speeder Storm)
The Raven’s Talons: Rending(1)

p. 94
Moondrakkan: can charged even if moves flat out
Moonfang: ID (1)

p. 95
Fearless: Fearless (2) and Stubborn

Assault Cannon: Rending (1)

p. 98
Master-crafted Weapons: has master-crafted rule

p. 100
Camo Cloaks: Stealth (1)

Dozer Blades: can re-roll dangerous terrain tests

Chapter Champion, Company Champion and Sergeants are squad leaders, Servitor units and attack bike squadrons can nominate one model as squad leader

I have another Q&A session this afternoon. I can probably relay questions. At least I can try. So shoot away."


- models that have charged already locked unit have I 10 this turn

- Assume leadership: Standard bearers, etc. that assume leadership count as squad leader in all respects (two saves, directed wounds), any other model that assumes leadership only in regard of performing unit actions

- if you deploy in 24” distance from enemy you cannot shoot with 24” weapon or assault with 24” movement

- models must always consolidate out of 1” of vehicle after attacking it, if locked in combat with another unit, vehicles are ignored for pile in moves after combat, must use this pile in move to bring 1” between unit an vehicle, artillery and walkers are obviously exceptions

- swarms have Eternal Warrior (1)

- Seize the initiative: same name, but completely different rule: stratagem, 1 str. point, after the deployment of both force, but before placing infiltrators, roll a D6, on 5+, enemy must place infiltrators in contact with his own table edge, no scout moves allowed

- whole unit or squadron must make the same reaction

- Pistols: got confused by what I though were two contradicting short statements; units with pistols can attack with pistol’s S, AP1,2,3 pistols confer Rending (2) (Rending on 5+), Gets Hot! wounds count against combat resolution,

on charge: can make full attacks
in any other turn: can make single attack, does not get bonus of second ccw, etc.

- if both player agree, the charge movement and pile in move before combat can be made as one move with combined movement distance after the first model was engaged to fasten things up

- Characters: shooting wounds are directed, too

- Advanced rules: evasion value (normal rules: always use short distance), all reactions, Torrent of Fire, Directed wounds, damage chart modifiers for AP, flyer mode, ramming, Stratagems: bidding stays intact but only re-rolls can be taken, unique units, measuring*

* normal rules: can measure anytime you want, advanced: movement: measure full movement distance you want to go, i.e. 6” for a advancing, can’t measure 12” surge distance, anything else: measure distance to target
you play either all advanced rules or none at all

- Hit & Run: still random: 3D6” consolidation move

- Morale checks for casualties: only in enemy’s shooting phase

- witchblade can now cause ID after psychic test like force weapons

- there is a small box for rare movement situations: if infantry unit moves as jump infantry (or any other unit type has movement rules of another unit type), it uses the jump infantry movement rules, but for shooting and close combat it counts as original unit type, so it is still easy to hit, if an unit moves flat out and there is no column in the to hit chart, take the moving column, exotic movements count as ‘moving’ even if faster than flat out move, deep striking units count as ‘moving’ , if units that are immobile arrives from reserves but not via deep strike, they are placed in contact with table edge normally and remain there for the rest of the game, we shall assume the the bunker has decloaked or something similar, units disembarking from deep striking vehicles use the disembarking rules for charging, so no charge unless fleet rule

- Master-crafted: re-roll one to hit roll, if several models attack with master-crafted weapons of the same type, roll the dice together, then re-roll as many dice as there are master-crafted weapons

- if you shoot through interfering models, you cannot snipe

running out out steam because I don’t get the errata info and I have reached even the tiny details of the rules :(
but I have one big thing left:

- monstrous creatures: 2D6 versus vehicles, ignore armour, move as infantry unless stated otherwise, are ignored for Abandon as ICs, IGNORE TERRAIN WHEN CHARGING


  1. I dunno, the sheer comprehensiveness makes me doubt these are from GW documents. If there were more glaring oversights it would be more believable. ;-)

  2. @ sonsoftaurus

    lol so true, so true...

  3. I love all the grognard "This change will allienate all the SM kiddies and only old neckbeards will remain!!" cheering.

    Yeah. Let's kick out the people who actually EXPEND MONEY ON THIS GAME.

    I still believe that all of this is a bunch of bullshit. Or a -laughably- alpha version at most.

  4. Again, 6th Ed is over a year away. This is probably, if it's real. at BEST, a VERY VERY early Alpha test rules version.

    As I said in Sandy's last post, 5th Ed was released in Septemberish of '08 and the 80-90% solution for the rules (i.e. the leaked PDF rulebook) wasn't leaked until around April/May of that year...about 4 months or so from release.

    So to expect that an accurate leak of the rules with this much detail and finality is being leaked almost a year out from the potential release date of 6th is...extremely unlikely.

    I won't hold my breath or worry. Now this time next year if these are still being discussed and are in a leaked PDF rulebook, then I'll start to be like "oh shit."


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