|The new Coteaz|
So we ended up with dawn of war and 4 objectives. I was trying out a more mechanized BA list, which would prove to be my down fall. Pretty much he took one turn getting guys in place, and then opened up with 39 lascannons each turn. Sure they are Bs3, but that still a lot of shots. Even with first turn and turbo boosting my storm raven went down in the first volley. Next to fall was my three typhoons and then Land raider. I never got into multi-melta range, it was all Lascannons. My razor backs got immobilized on one side of the board and took pot shots. My Baal predator was taking out a squad a turn, but there were just so many squads.
I only had about 6 long range units, to his 13, I couldn't engage them all. A 10 man assault squad running the gauntlet could easily multi-assault and tie up and/or wipe multiple squads. A good hybrid list should be able to deal with them fine, but pure mech could have some trouble. Their 5++ is more annoying than you'd think.
Even if you can't take unlimited number of squads (which is how I see it), you can still take 9 of them and then some support. oh, and their upgrade table is more annoying and time consuming than anything else. With a +2 each time, more often there was nothing happening. They either got 5++ or +1 Sv, neither of which helped. One squad managed to get rending. YAY rending multi-melta and lascannons.
It is an interesting gimmick list, but I see the Joks as being good support units, but not the core of an army.